Warren Buffett

Duan Yongping’s most important teacher — “I believed from the very first minute and have never wavered.”


👤 Profile

Warren Buffett, CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, is the world’s most successful value investor. Duan Yongping says, “I believed in Buffett from the first minute I saw his name, and I’ve never wavered.” Buffett is the source of thought for Duan’s entire investment system, with core concepts like Buying Stocks is Buying Companies, Business Model being paramount, and Concentrated Investment all originating from Buffett.

Duan says: “Among the people I know, I’ve only seen two who absolutely believe in ‘buying a stock is buying a company’ in their bones—Buffett and Munger. Everyone else (including myself) is more or less influenced by the market.” (Source: Duan Yongping Q&A, Investment Logic, 2012-04-27)


💡 Duan Yongping’s Evaluation of Buffett

1. “Buffett is a very good person”

Duan says: “He is sincerely kind and honest to people. He is very wise; he can get to the essence of any complex problem in just one or two sentences. I’ve rarely seen such a wise, successful, and kind person among Chinese or even American entrepreneurs.” (Source: Stanford SDL Dialogue, 2018-09-30)

2. Buffett’s most important trait: Persistence in not doing wrong things

Duan says: “The reason Buffett is ‘Buffett’ is primarily that he can persist in doing the right things, which means not doing things that are principled mistakes.” This aligns perfectly with Ben Fen and the Stop Doing List. “I personally think the most important reason Buffett has reached where he is today is that he rarely makes ‘principled mistakes’.” (Source: Business Logic, 2010-07-04)

3. Learn what he doesn’t do

Duan says: “The most important thing people can learn from Buffett is actually what he doesn’t do! Most people learn the opposite—what he is doing—which is impossible to learn because everyone’s Circle of Competence is different.” (Source: Business Logic, 2010-07-04)

4. His logic is “as enjoyable as music”

Duan says: “The things Buffett says are logically smooth and as enjoyable to listen to as music.” This is Duan’s highest praise for Buffett’s thought system.


🤝 Gains from the 2006 Lunch

Duan Yongping won the Buffett lunch for $620,100 in 2006 and brought Colin Huang with him. The biggest takeaways were:

  • Duan told Buffett the most important thing he learned was “Buying Stocks is Buying Companies.” Buffett was very excited, saying that was exactly the most important thing he learned from Graham.
  • Buffett told Duan that the “Business Model is most important”—Duan said this one sentence alone was worth 100 lunches.
  • Buffett’s advice: Don’t short, don’t borrow money, and don’t do what you don’t understand—this became the core of Duan’s Stop Doing List.

📖 Core Lessons from Buffett

1. Look at the business model first “Since meeting Buffett, my chances of making mistakes have dropped significantly (not doing what I don’t understand). My decision to heavily invest in Apple also benefited from Buffett’s teaching (strong business model).”

2. Don’t touch what you don’t understand — The boundary of the Circle of Competence “Buffett said knowing how large your circle of competence is is more important than how large it actually is.”

3. Don’t short, don’t borrow — Safety first “Buffett said many of his very capable friends went bankrupt because they used margin.”

4. A good company is one you never want to sell “Buffett said the best company is one you never want to sell. If you find a few such companies in a lifetime, it’s hard not to succeed.”


📊 Similarities and Differences

DimensionBuffettDuan Yongping
Core FaithBuying stocks is buying companiesIdentical
Primary CriterionBusiness ModelIdentical
ValuationIntrinsic ValueRough Estimation
ConcentrationConcentratedMore extreme Concentration
CultureValuedEmphasized even more than Buffett
Unique ContributionMoat TheoryBen Fen, Pursuit Beyond Profit

Related Concepts Buying Stocks is Buying Companies · Business Model · Stop Doing List · Circle of Competence · Concentrated Investment · Long-termism Related People Duan Yongping · Charlie Munger · Colin Huang

巴菲特

段永平最重要的老师——“从第一分钟就开始相信,从来没动摇过”


👤 人物简介

巴菲特(Warren Buffett),伯克希尔·哈撒韦公司CEO,全球最成功的价值投资者。段永平说”我从看到’巴菲特’第一分钟就开始相信巴菲特了,从来没动摇过”——巴菲特是段永平整个投资体系的思想来源,买股票就是买公司生意模式最重要、集中投资等核心理念都来自巴菲特。

段永平说:“我认识的人里面,骨子里绝对认同’买股票就是买公司’这一点的人我就见过两个——巴菲特和芒格。其他所有人(包括我本人在内)或多或少都受市场影响。“(来源:段永平投资问答录(投资逻辑篇),2012-04-27)


💡 段永平对巴菲特的评价

1. “老巴是一个很好的人”

段永平说:“他是发自内心的对人好对人诚恳。他很睿智,任何复杂的问题,他一两句话就说到本质了。他这么睿智这么成功又对人这么好,中国企业家里我基本没见过这样的,美国企业家里也极少。“(来源:斯坦福SDL对话,2018-09-30)

2. 巴菲特的最重要特质:坚持不做错的事情

段永平说:“巴菲特之所以是’巴菲特’,最重要的就是他能坚持做正确的事,也就是原则性错误的事不做。“——这与本分Stop Doing List完全一致。“巴菲特有今天,我个人觉得最重要的就是他很少犯’原则性错误’。“(来源:商业逻辑篇,2010-07-04)

3. 学巴菲特要学他不做什么

段永平说:“学巴菲特最重要和人们能够学的东西其实是他不做什么!绝大多数人学的是相反的东西,就是他在做什么,那是没办法学的,因为每个人的能力圈不同。“(来源:商业逻辑篇,2010-07-04)

4. 老巴的东西”逻辑上很顺,听起来像音乐一样享受”

段永平说:“老巴(说)的东西,逻辑上很顺,听起来像音乐一样享受。“——这是段永平对巴菲特思想体系的最高评价。(来源:斯坦福SDL对话,2018-09-30)

5. 巴菲特的”卡片打洞”投资策略

巴菲特说:“我用一张考勤卡就能改善你最终的财务状况,这张卡片上有20格,所以你只能有20次打卡的机会——这代表你一生中所能拥有的投资次数。当你把卡打完之后,你就再也不能进行投资了。在这样的规则之下,你将会真正地慎重考虑你做的事情。“段永平深以为然:“不知道是芒格还是巴菲特说过,如果一个人的投资生涯中只出手20次,他的成绩单会比更多次出手要好得多。“(来源:段永平投资问答录(投资逻辑篇),2010-05-08)


🤝 2006年午餐的收获

段永平以62.01万美元拍下巴菲特午餐,带黄峥同行。这次午餐的最大收获:

  • 段永平告诉巴菲特,他从巴菲特那里学到的最重要的一句话是”买股票就是买公司”。巴菲特非常兴奋地说,这正是他从格雷厄姆那里学到的最重要的东西。
  • 巴菲特告诉段永平”生意模式最重要”——段永平说”和老巴吃顿饭没白吃,这句话就已经值个100顿饭了吧”。
  • 巴菲特的叮嘱:不做空,不借钱,不做不懂的东西——这成为段永平Stop Doing List的核心。

段永平后来说:“即使是号称很有企业经验的本人也是在经受很多挫折之后才觉得自己对投资的理解比较好了。我问过巴菲特,在投资中不可以做的事情是什么,他告诉我说:不做空,不借钱,最重要的是不要做不懂的东西。这些年,我在投资里亏掉的美金数以亿计,每一笔都是违背老巴教导的情况下亏的,而赚到的大钱也都是在自己真正懂的地方赚的。“(来源:段永平投资问答录(投资逻辑篇),2010-02-04)


📖 段永平从巴菲特那里学到的核心教诲

1. 买公司首先看生意模式

“从见巴菲特以后,我犯错误的机会明显下降(不懂不做),决定重仓苹果也得益于巴菲特的教诲(生意模式强大)。巴菲特讲的这两个东西,我认为至少值20%的身价(对看懂的每个人的一生而言)。“(来源:段永平投资问答录(投资逻辑篇),2012-07-11)

2. 不懂不碰——能力圈的边界

“巴菲特说知道自己能力圈有多大比能力圈有多大要重要的多。“段永平深刻理解这一点,他说”股市上那些长期亏钱的大多属于不知道自己能力圈有多大的人”。(来源:段永平投资问答录(投资逻辑篇),2012-07-28)

3. 不做空、不借钱——安全第一

“巴菲特说过,他有很多很厉害的朋友最后都破产了,原因就是因为用了margin。“段永平把这条铁律贯彻到底,他说”即使只有1%的机会”也不能冒可能让自己出局的风险。(来源:段永平投资问答录(投资逻辑篇),2010-04-03)

4. 好公司是永远不想卖的公司

“老巴讲过,最好的公司就是永远都不想卖的公司。一生找到几个这种公司,想不发达也难啊。“——这是长期主义在投资中的最高体现。(来源:段永平投资问答录(投资逻辑篇),2015-01-13)


📊 段永平与巴菲特的异同

维度巴菲特段永平
核心信仰买股票就是买公司完全相同
选股第一标准生意模式完全相同
估值方法内在价值毛估估
集中程度集中持有更极端的集中投资
企业文化重视比巴菲特更强调
独特贡献护城河理论本分利润之上的追求

段永平说:“从价值投资的角度看,也许你说的’差距’用’不同’来说或许更好些。老巴懂的我经常不懂,我懂的老巴也可能不懂。“(来源:段永平投资问答录(投资逻辑篇),2010-05-04)


💬 原文金句

“我从看到’巴菲特’第一分钟就开始相信巴菲特了,从来没动摇过。心中没有’巴菲特’的人是很难相信’巴菲特’的,而且谁说都没用。” — 段永平(来源:商业逻辑篇,2010-07-04)

“老巴(说)的东西,逻辑上很顺,听起来像音乐一样享受。” — 段永平(来源:斯坦福SDL对话,2018-09-30)

“和老巴吃顿饭没白吃,这句话(生意模式最重要)就已经值个100顿饭了吧(其实远远不止哈)?” — 段永平(来源:段永平投资问答录(投资逻辑篇),2012-06-24)

“这些年,我在投资里亏掉的美金数以亿计,每一笔都是违背老巴教导的情况下亏的,而赚到的大钱也都是在自己真正懂的地方赚的。” — 段永平(来源:段永平投资问答录(投资逻辑篇),2010-02-04)

“学巴菲特最重要和人们能够学的东西其实是他不做什么!绝大多数人学的是相反的东西,就是他在做什么,那是没办法学的,因为每个人的能力圈不同。” — 段永平(来源:商业逻辑篇,2010-07-04)

“巴菲特之所以是’巴菲特’,最重要的就是他能坚持做正确的事,也就是原则性错误的事不做。” — 段永平(来源:商业逻辑篇,2010-07-04)

“老巴讲过,最好的公司就是永远都不想卖的公司。一生找到几个这种公司,想不发达也难啊。” — 段永平(来源:段永平投资问答录(投资逻辑篇),2015-01-13)


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